Chalkhills Digest Volume 2, Issue 35
Date: Sunday, 19 November 1995

          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 35

                 Sunday, 19 November 1995

Today's Topics:

                       RE: XTCMuzak
              Andy Partridge's Fallout Club?
                      Collideascope
              Hello!! ... and producers....
                  Thanksgiving 'Dinner'
              Chalkhills Digest #2-32 (fwd)
                      Collideascope
                      More ramblings
                    Re:Chalkhills 2-33
                        demolisten
               Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-33
           A correction/Weird Places/XTC Muzak!
               Another strange place of XTC
                         Cockpit
         Spirit of the Forest: also wondering...
       The Case of the Missing Andy Boy PART 3 OF 4
                      Collideascope
                Re: odd places to hear XTC
                      Missonary Work
           All vocals by respective authors...

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Date: 17 Nov 1995 15:08:21 -0500
From: "Ken Salaets" <ksalaets@itic.nw.dc.us>
Subject: RE: XTCMuzak

From: James Poulakos <engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu>

>Are there people out there with the guts to MAKE Muzak versions of XTC
>tunes? Sounds like a goofy, fun thing to do-- better XTC fans than those
>foul Muzak anaesthotropic demons churning along in the evenly-lit
>climate-controlled cubicles of Wherever-Muzak-Comes-From, Inc.

Hey, don't knock it!  Everytime one of them there muzak thangs plays, Andy
or Colin potentially earns royalties.  Every little bit helps, no matter
how painful.

Mr. Kite

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:08:42 -0800 (PST)
From: A Sattler <ahs@nevada.edu>
Subject: Andy Partridge's Fallout Club?

And now for something completely different...
  I was browsing through a book called "One Hit Wonders" recently and
stumbled upon their entry for our friend Thomas Dolby (guess they think
"She Blinded Me With Science" qualifies him for inclusion here).  In the
entry a reference is made to an "LP project" Dolby contributed keyboard
work to for "Andy Partridge's Fallout Club," apparently in the early or
mid '80s.  This is the first time I've heard of such a thing -- anyone
know the story behind it?  Is there an actual record I can lay my
hands on (or at least drool over)?  Please tell!  Thanks in advance...
  cheers,
  Annie S.

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:24:24 -0600 (CST)
From: kimw@rice.edu (Kim E. Williams)
Subject: Collideascope

Re:When Dave Gregory was playing guitar for Aimee Mann (last year?), Andy
jumped on stage when they hit New York City and sat-in for a single
song:  Collideascope.

Now, WHY would Andy sing one of Colin's songs?

[Maybe 'cause Dave or Aimee ASKED Andy to play it ... ?]

Dave told Andy that Aimee Mann was a big Dukes fan and if the band learned
Collideascope, would Andy get up and sing it with them? ( IT IS ANDY'S
SONG!!)  Andy didn't want to, but for Dave, he'd do it.  Andy even said in
Little Express, his bowels were not his friend that day, but he made a
commitment and he went through with it.

 - Stick a fork in me - I'm done. (Voodoo Mark Band -Fighting)

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From: smcdow@arlut.utexas.edu (Stuart McDow)
Subject: Hello!! ... and producers....
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:26:34 -0600 (CST)

Time for introductions: Even though I've posted a couple of times to
the list already, here goes: In 1980, I was living in a housing
co-operative in Austin, Texas. Well, I think it was 1980. A friend who
also lived there worked at a record store near the U of Texas
campus. I remember hanging out at the recored store with all the other
punks (remember, this was the Raul's days) and catching bits of
music/recording business wisdom. I mentioned to Dan that I really
liked the graphics on the XTC album cover (D&W), but I didn't know
anything about the band. He lent me a copy of D&W and I went home and
listened and listened and listened. Y'know, maybe it was 79. I don't
remember seeing and Black Sea Posters in the store.

I kept up with them through the years. I started bands, disolved
bands, restarted bands, finished school, started more bands, quit
bands, etc. XTC has always been there. Now, at 33, I'm trying to get
into medical school - with all the requiste emotional ups and downs
that go along with that quest. The band is still there for me. Last
night, I listened to Nonsvch and English Settlement at full volume to
help me get over a bad day. Not on purpose, mind you; that's just what
I felt like listening to.

I find it interesting that many people choose Mummur and The Big
Express as their favorite albums. Coming off the heels of D&W, Black
Sea, and English Settlement, I consider those two albums a 'dry
spell'. I'm finally starting to come around to them.

Onward....

>From the keyboard of Randy Watkins <randyw@sisna.com>:
>
> I personally think they'd do a helluva lot better by themselves,

This is hard to say. I think that working with a good producer can do
wonders. Having worked with some really good producers, I can say that
sometimes that person can give you a whole new song. There have been
times when I would have been working on a song for months - playing it
live and everything - and experimenting with it to get it right and it
never seems to come out the way I wanted it to sound. I would get to
the point of trashing it when I would go in to make some demos. I
would complain that I have this song that I liked, but I can't seem to
get it to sound the way I liked. He'd listen, then go: "Why don't you
try this...?" And it would be EXACTLY what I'd been searching for.

My point is that you can get stuck in a rut listening to yourself play
the same song over and over again. Sometimes, a good producer can
provide fresh insight to that song. Producing your own material can be
a stuffy, lackluster proposition.

> but since the record company insists on
> producers....
>
> My picks:
>
> Roger Waters

I can't agree. I imagine an album that would make a good sleep aid.

> Brian Eno

This could be magic. I hope he produces them someday.

> Walter Becker or Donald Fagen

Now, here's an interesting thought. I'd never really thought of them.

Here's mine:

STEVE LILLYWHITE - He's known for his big full sounds. He's produced
everybody at sometime or another (including XTC).

Don Was - I really like his tendancy to get songs into a
groove-mode. Dancing is everything.

My 2c.

--
Stuart McDow                                      Applied Research Laboratories
smcdow@arlut.utexas.edu                       The University of Texas at Austin

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:35:15 -0800
From: techy@westworld.com (Troy A. Rutter)
Subject:  Thanksgiving 'Dinner'

Well, Im back after a hiatus... Im sure some of you wont even recognize me.
My name is Troy Rutter.  Anyway...

I just moved out to Los Angeles and was going through some XTC withdrawl
when I happened to stop by the Virgin record mega store and was quite
happy. :)  That day I picked up "Drums and Wireless: BBS Radio Sessions
77-89", "A Testimonial Dinner" as well as the Andy Partridge poem
collection CD thingie.  Wowsers!

Its very hard to believe that I was like the only one in my class who had
ever heard of the group... and to see an album with  Crash Test Dummies,
They Might Be Giants, etc on a tribute album is really great.

Anyway... thats all I wanted to say.  :)

-Troy

-------
We all have choices.  Whether we choose to use those choices or not
shouldn't be the only choice you choose.

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From: steve@expersoft.com (Steve-O Lutz)
Subject: Chalkhills Digest #2-32 (fwd)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:38:31 -0800 (PST)

> How about this - I'm convinced that Peter P-Head is about Jesus...
> -"Emptied churches and shopping malls" (Jesus getting angry in the
> temple)
> -"told the truth" (Truth is another word for the Gospel)...
> "was too good" (Pontius Pilate could find nothing wrong with him)...
> -"had him nailed to a chunk of wood" (i.e. crucifix)...
> -"died grinning" (He'd completed his task so was pleased)
> -"on live TV" (the crucifixion was BIG news at the
> time therefore a lot of people would have witnessed it)...
> -"looked a lot like you and an awful lot like me" (Jesus was the
> sacrifice for our sins i.e.took our place)...
> -"made enemies of the people who would
> keep us on our knees" (Jesus' enemies were the Jewish bigwigs of the
> time who wielded the rods and kept authority over the Jews).

	Hmmm... Given what we know about Andy, and some things that he's
said regarding Pumpkinhead, it seems more likely to me that he's
criticizing the church (and perhaps organized authority figures in
general) by making his protagonist resemble Jesus as much as
possible, with the added irony that the church is as responsible as
anyone for his downfall.

	To me, this viewpoint is indicated by lines like "showed the
Vatican what gold's for", and "any kind of love is alright" (seems an
obvious jab at the church's condemnation of homosexuality).  I also
take "the people who would keep us on our knees" as a wonderful
double-meaning attack on the church.  When one prays, one is
certainly on one's knees, just as one is when one begs, or is whipped
into submission.  But "who'll pray for Peter Pumkinhead"?  Well,
presumable no one, as religion helped to kill him.

	I recall reading in an interview somewhere that Andy was quite
upset with people who thought the song was just "about Jesus". This
was right around the time he started emphasizing that PP was written
about a pumpkin on his garden fence.  Perhaps this was meant to quell
comment on the subject from people who, in Andy's view, obviously
didn't get it.  I dunno.  Hard to say what's goin' through that
monkey's head.

	-- Steve-O

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:08:04 -0500 (EST)
From: "C.L. Wood" <u9400576@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: Collideascope

On my first listening to this song, I did think it was Colin.  But after
close listening I now think is sounds like Andy.  It's true, according to
'chips from the chocolate fireball' it is Andy.  More evidence can be
found in the Chalkhills and Children biography.  On page 156 it lists the
old songs that Andy and Colin had lying around.  Even this isn't
clear, but I'm pretty sure it means that it is one of Andy's.  Interesting!

Christopher

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From: Ben Gott <BENG@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us>
Subject: More ramblings
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:41:00 est

Well...the first time I heard XTC, I got hooked. My 31-year old brother (who
has no money) made me a bunch of mixes for my birthday, and one was "Nonsuch"
and "Drums and Wires." I put in the tape, and was hooked on "The Ballad of
Peter Pumpkinhead," but then I listened to "My Bird Performs" so much that
the tape broke (oh, well.) Anyway...my second XTC album was "English
Settlement," which I bought at my high school bookstore for $5. The rest
is history.

    I used a quote from the "Mayor of Simpleton" in my English essay on
Thoreau  - and my teacher loved it (!)

    When I walked into the Admission Office to give a tour today, I exclaimed
"Good to be Bach!" No one got it.

    Thanks for all the support I've gotten from people on this list to help
me build up my collection.

    That's it. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

Ben
beng@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us
Home page: http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/58596/home.html

XTC SONG OF THE (gosh!) HOLIDAY WEEK:
                "Leisure"

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:48:59 -0600
From: vanvalnc@is2.nyu.edu (Chris Van Valen)
Subject: Re:Chalkhills 2-33

Hi Guys & Gals

Just two corrections

1) Andy was born 11/11/52, not 42

2)"What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love and Understanding?" was written by
Nick Lowe, not Elvis.

New song for XTC to cover "A Town Called Malice" (Colin on vocals)

A good weekend to all!

CV

"Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know"
                --Paul Weller

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:06:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Thomas Long <tlong@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: demolisten

Extatic's Skylarking & Other Demos (thankyou Alibi) is a pretty damn fine
listen. Two standouts are Colin's Grass - the main riff is played on
guitar (presumably by Colin) and just kills... it's in the key of A
rather than the E of Skylarking, but has that same druggy feel... the
texture of the guitar suggests Colin may have recorded the riff fast and
slowed it down, or simply doused the track with effects... great stuff -
and Andy's Season's Cycle - it opens very much like the Kinks' Autumn
Almanac, and Andy's voice sounds so mournful. Only The Meeting Place and
Ballet for a Rainy Day suffer in terms of fidelity, everything else is
very listenable.
One thing that came to mind was how much each writer had arranged their
songs beforehand - the background vocals on the demos are very intricate,
and carried over virtually intact to the Skylarking recording sessions.
And the thematic unity of the songs of that period (including the Meeting
Place demos), not to mention the obvious quality of the material, leads
me to wonder how much praise Rundgren is entitled to. Its been said he
wanted an album free of POLITICS, but aside from Terrorism, I think any
of the other MP demos could have fit in to the Runt's grand concept.
Further, the piss poor production and sessions he made unbearable to be a
part of (see Chalkhills & Children and numerous post-Skylarking
interviews), make me believe so much more could have been gained in terms
of leverage for the band - not just additional critical acclaim and
popular appeal, but with Virgin.
                                Thomas

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:34:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <ccoolidg@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-33

  I do advertising/promotion in the local Grand Unions part-time; G.U. has
an in-house muzak system with some very hip and/or twisted programmer who's
been turning some very cool stuff into muzak. So far in the past few months,
besides XTC, receiving the treatment have been Elvis Costello, Split Enz,
Crowded House, Tim Finn, Joan Armatrading, Tom Waits, John Hiatt, and many
others somewhat more mainstream. Can't wait for them to get to Metallica...

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:28:45 -0700 (MST)
From: Big Earl Sellar <splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>
Subject: A correction/Weird Places/XTC Muzak!

Howdy! Man, it's good to see this list every day again!

Firstly, rimshot3@ix.netcom.com (ERIC ROSEN ) sigged (<new verb alert!)

> "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"
> -Elvis "Napoleon Dynamite" Costello

PEACE, LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING is actually a really old Nick Lowe song
(from his Brinsley Schwarz (sp?) days). Great tune though....

Secondly, James Poulakos <engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu> inquired:

> Are there people out there with the guts to MAKE Muzak versions of XTC
> tunes? Sounds like a goofy, fun thing to do-- better XTC fans than those
> foul Muzak anaesthotropic demons churning along in the evenly-lit
> climate-controlled cubicles of Wherever-Muzak-Comes-From, Inc.

I can't remember if it was this list I mentioned this on, but I've
*always* wanted to make Muzak! No, seriously! Whenever I'm stuck in a
Muzak situation (train station, hold music, etc.) I always listen to the
arrangements. Admittedly, most are dire, but some are really damn creative.
Unfortunately I *hate* synths, so mine would sound more like the
background music from SPIDERMAN. (Like when that band is playing...)
Admittedly, I always think of doing muzak versions of songs like MOON
OVER MARIN by the Dead Kennedys or WATCHA GONNA DO by DOA: hummable punk
tunes. XTC has some real possibilities.

OK, for weird places I've heard XTC:

1) At a party many moons ago, we were sitting around listening to the
Violent Femmes, when the brother of the girl throwing the shin-dig shows
up with a *real* metalhead friend of his. (Good metalhead though - he was
wearing a Motorhead shirt) So the tape ends, m/h leaps to the stereo
shouting "You gotta hear this tape I just got!" and proceeds to slap in
BLACK SEA. Hmmm...

2) At an SNFU show (anyother Fishmongers out there?), just after the
aptly named 40 FOOT WAVES OF PUKE ends, the PA starts blaring out some
Black Flag. After LOOSE NUT ends, on comes BALL & CHAINS. Hmmm...

3) And the best one and I couldn't experience it :( Flying back from
Vancouver in 1993, I browse through Canadian Airlines' in-flight
magazine. And on the play-list for the overseas flights is MAYOR OF
SIMPLETON. Now *that's* a hmmm... and a half.

One last little thing if I may: I was listening to SKYLARKING last night
and half-way through D*** G**, I started wondering about what the song
would sound like if it was just acoustic, like at the beginning. So, I'm
wondering if someone would *privately* like to discuss some of the Radio
Tour b******s with me. Thanks. Later...

EEEEEEE Big Earl Sellar - splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
EE 	"Now some men will drive to the edge of nothing
EEEE 	 So they can take a peek at the great abyss
EE  	 Some men avoid love like it was a plague or something
EEEEEE 	 So they can leave the seat down when they piss." - John Hiatt
	***** REPEAL BILL C-7 NOW; GOVERN CANADA THROUGH OPEN DEBATE,
	      NOT FOREIGN INFLUENCE; WHY FEAR A PLANT? *****

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:22:11 -0800
From: mf@well.com (Mitch Friedman)
Subject: Another strange place of XTC

Hello again,

I just remembered yet another very weird/unlikely spot that I heard
XTC. About 5 years ago, while living in the West Village in New York City,
I was groggilly lounging around my apartment one early Sunday morning when
I heard a male choir performing just down the block, accapella. I opened
the window to see and hear better and it turned out to be the Greenwich
Village Gay Men's Choir doing an impassioned version of Mayor of Simpleton!
Really!

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From: 7IHd <ee92pmh@brunel.ac.uk>
Subject: Cockpit
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:41:45 +0000 (GMT)

# From: Laura Parent <laura@geosun1.sjsu.edu>
# Subject: Where to get chalkhills, & etc..
#
# As for XTC songs I don't like, will I be booted off the list if I confess
# I don't like ANYTHING on Big Express?

Listen to it every day for 6 months. Then you'll understand.

Seriously, this is one of the hardest ones to get into but it's well worth
making a *big* effort, it'll probably end up your favourite. It did mine.

# So we've established that AP is an atheist. Has anyone else ever noticed
# that he's also quite sexist as well? (i.e. Down in the Cockpit?) Ah well,
# whoever said that musicians have to be perfect?

May I humbly suggest that you're completely wrong (unless you're trying to
say that it's a radiacl militant feminist song, which I doubt).

"Man acting like a farmer and he's treating the woman like a poor cow -
we got to trat you better from now..."

Need I go on? Really?

# From: Martin Wilson <mw25@unix.york.ac.uk>
# > From: DAMIAN FOULGER <SPXDLF@cardiff.ac.uk>
# > The most Bizarre place that I have heard XTC has got to be on Radio 1
# > in Britain.  Very Strange......
#
# 	Utterly bizzare but I too have had this experience.  Apparently
# Mark Radcliffe is a bit of a fan on the quiet.

Hey, that's a point, I've come across this phenomina too. Marrrrrrrrrrrrk
Radcliffe was playing 'The Meeting Place' when I switched the radio on in
the car once. I've also heard 'Dear God' played by someone (Annie
Nightingale I think it was, if she's still around), and I don't even
recall that being a hit in the UK. Or was it? It certainly passed me by
at the time.

Anyway, I did my first show on our student radio station yesterday, and
managed to work in no less than 3 tracks off 'The Big Express' ('Wake Up'
at the start - highly inappropriate for a show starting at midday, but
then, this is a university! - and 'Seagulls' and 'This World Over' later
on). Shriekback got a look in too. All good stuff. :-)

ttfn,
Phil

PS: Any UK people here know any sources of XTC bootlegs? (Specifically
the Extatic ones, but anything considered).

PPS: If 'yes' to above, can anyone lend me some money? I've run out. :-(
  _
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:24:24 -0700 (MST)
From: dahaa@primenet.com (David Haakenson)
Subject: Spirit of the Forest: also wondering...

>From: richard.pedrettiallen@octel.com (Richard Pedretti-Allen)
>
>  I notice XTC listed in the Spirit of the Forest lineup (I've highlighted
>  their name with **).  I've never heard or seen this mentioned on
>  Chalkhills... anybody got any details?

-----------

I'd be curious as well. I bought the UK 7" (Virgin VS1191, pic sleeve, 1989
release) when it came out, cuz XTC was listed on the sleeve. But when you
listen to it, can't hear anything or anyone that, even for a moment,
resembles anyone from XTC. Dunno. Sits in my permanent XTC collection, but
have always been curious about it.

david haakenson

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 21:30:55 -0800
From: dfranson@earth.execpc.com (Dave Franson)
Subject: The Case of the Missing Andy Boy PART 3 OF 4

Trouser Press/October 1983 pp. 26-29

The Case of the Missing Andy Boy PART 3 OF 4
by Harry George

[continued from installment two...]

Moulding, however, had said that he and Partridge (XTC's two songwriters)
make demos of their songs, which the group follows pretty closely.

"Not totally true," Partridge states. "We give a general atmospheric
description and ask if the others can contribute something-- even changing
the chord structure or suggesting word changes. We don't pander to each
others egos, we pander to the good of the song. We're not technically
outstanding musicians so we try to find the magic in a song and play that."

Fortunately for Partridge, Moulding shares his views about touring. But what
about guitarist Gregory?

"I think Dave misses it for two reasons. He's an absolute tourist at heart,
always has his cameras and notebook handy. Also, he's in the R&B guitarist
tradition: get up, plug in your guitar, stamp your foot and go."

XTC isn't the sort of band to get up and play in local pubs. Partridge says
what killed that spirit was the experience of playing "huge ice hockey
stadiums":

"Once you've done that, it's very difficult to go backwards. You have lots
of stupid things nagging at you, like wondering whether your equipment might
break down and where would you get spares, or possibly getting frustrated
because the people around you are having a good time more than they are
playing the songs."

His objections to arena-rock reveal the aversions that contributed to his
breakdown.

"You do a little improvisation which is subconscious at one gig, then you
catch yourself doing it again and again. You get to the point when you think
to yourself, 'When I hit this chord I'm gonna leap on one foot, go to one
side and look over to the left. Here I am, yes, I'm doing the action, I knew
I would.' You become detached from yourself."

Is there any way of making touring more civilized?

A great carrot to carry the touring cart would be the reward of huge
commercial success. Seeing as we've had no financial reward from it and our
success is very 'underground' (an old-fashioned word that works very well),
it was difficult to keep the momentum of this donkey cart going.

"Discerning buyers all around the globe write us incredible letters. They
say we're the first band they've liked since the Beatles split up. It's
quite alarming. We get most of our mail from the States-- about 95 percent."

Perhaps it's XTC's flair for colorful in instrumentation that encourages
comparison to Partridge's '60s idols. "Great Fire" includes cellos and
violas, "Gold" has trombones. He holds out for the real thing ovcr
synthesized sounds. "It doesn't sound warm enough if you simulate them."

Even more fab is a new song, "Seagulls Screaming (Kiss Her Kiss Her),"
recorded solo at home using Mellotron and drum machine: the result is a
magical mystery tour down Blue Jay Way, right down to the disembodied vocal.

Partridge is beginning to sympathize with Van Morrison's preference for a
small, faithful cult over a fickle mass following.

"That's where our arrows are falling. But there aren't many bands who've
decided not to tour, to do this cottage industry thing, and have a history
to learn from. Most bands who gave up touring when it was fashionable in the
'60s self-destructed, but the climate is different now. So is the
technology: You can do so much more in the studio. That inventiveness lies
in imposing a primitivism on yourself."

Despite the punk notion that gigs are what it's all about, pop music has an
equally valid tradition of great records which are explicitly impossible to
reproduce live. Partridge clearly relates to the Phil Spector aesthetic of
studio perfection rather than the hurlyburly world of music promotion.

"I think I see XTC now as the kind of people who would have written music
in the 18th century. You weren't under the magnifying glass; you never went
on TV or radio; your music was heard through orchestras playing it in
concert, or through people buying sheet music. I'd love not to have to make
videos, but to follow the pure way of putting our music down-- that is,
making records rather than writing out scores for an orchestra."

He quite enjoys gigs, as long as they're not his, but has no illusions about
the level at which they communicate.

"A gig is mostly a social thing. The best gigs have a communal feeling, like
a football crowd, everyone locked into this big vibe. Probably the best gigs
around are Rod Stewart's, where all the moms are locked into this sex
groove, or the Grateful Dead's, where everyone lives out a fantasy of being
a down-home, shit-kicking Dead roadie. Whenever we played, I always wanted
to be in the audience."

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:56:45 -0700 (MST)
From: dahaa@primenet.com (David Haakenson)
Subject: Collideascope

I read somewhere that on this particular song, it was the first time that
Andy and Colin actually sang the same vocals and they were mixed together.

This was done instead of just having one guy sing two vocal tracks, as is
the norm for almost all releases since the Beatles.

Anybody else recall reading this? Can't remember the source though...

david

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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:12:22 -0500 (EST)
From: heller megan j <mjhell@mail.wm.edu>
Subject: Re: odd places to hear XTC

I heard "Garden of Earthly Delights" playing over the speakers while I
was changing in a Gap dressing room in Denver, CO, about four years ago.
It made the shopping experience much more relaxing. :)

later,
megan h.

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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:14:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Craig Snyder <csnyder@YorkU.CA>
Subject: Missonary Work

First off this is NOT part of the DG debate.

I would like to propose a new stream in the discussion about aour own
missionary work: that is converting others to XTC!

I have a buddy here at the uni who I have lent several XTC CDs to.  I have
started to get him hooked by making some tapes for him. the first was a
collection of Colin Songs that I made a year or so ago for myself and
just love!  The other was a tape of TD on one side and then the originals
on the other!

Any other suggestions or Testimonials from other missionaries!

Cheers

Craig

Craig Snyder					"That's it, this world over
Post Doctoral Fellow				Time for a new one to begin"
Centre for International and Strategic Studies	-- XTC
Joint Centre for Asia Pacific Studies
York University, Toronto Ontario Canada

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Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:38:17 -0500
From: Tobin Munsat <tmunsat@pppl.gov>
Subject: All vocals by respective authors...

>now, so I can pompously, confidently say that XTC never, ever lend lead
>vocals to band member(s) who didn't compose the song, like Lennon/McCartney

Ok, this makes sense.  BUT, someone in the previous digest printed the
authors of the Dukes songs, which included 'Bike Ride...' by *Andy*.  Is
that really Andy singing?  I don't have the disk here with me at work, but I
always thought it was Colin singing on that one.  Please clarify, oh
knowledgeable community.  -Tobin

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